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WRITING A GOOD BAD POEM (A Poem I Read Today)

 
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来自: Sky Blue Water

帖子发表于: 星期五 十二月 08, 2006 10:28 am    发表主题: WRITING A GOOD BAD POEM (A Poem I Read Today) 引用并回复

WRITING A GOOD BAD POEM

If you want to write a good bad poem
i.e. a poem all will like but will find very unusual
i.e. the kind of poem they are not used to
and the kind teachers dismiss as bad
but editors and poets love, do the following:
Do not put much of yourself in it, and set
your ego aside. Keep away from expressing
your dreams too much, and from all the accessories
of your usual self. Write about what is around you
by observing it and reporting it in clear, common-sense
language. The common-place is just as strong
as the unusual and the unknown, and even stronger.
People do not see it in general and are stunned
when someone exposes what they knew was there
but regarded as granted and unworthy of celebration.
Do not write lines of the type “ I love you
and pray we shall be together always” and all their endless
ramifications. That is unoriginal. Show the same meaning
by writing something like “ You walk in smiling,
dressed in red, and carrying hope for my eyes in yours”—
it means the same thing and sounds better and
has images. Do not be afraid of prosaic style
like you see in this poem so far. If you are
you’ll end up writing sing-song rhymes like
“With him I want my love to show
and all the world to know”, a statement of the general
communal abstract self, only good for the dustbin.
Assert your opinions, assess the view. That is different
from asserting your ego—your comments on what you see
are valuable and things like the lines below work:
“We made a fire with our own constituent thoughts
and sizzled in it for a while. The wind spread it quickly
to the valley and the towns below, and we supervised
the clean burn till only the ashes of experience were left.”
That is asserting the self through the world around us.
Keep away from unclarity. Ask yourself if others
will understand all lines without explanation comments
and take out what does not fit this measuring yardstick
though you can keep some nuances here and there
for spice. Here is a good example: “Grant me
the peace and pace of butterflies,the sweetness of honey
in my wording, the softness of flower petals in my touch.”
You will note that everyone will understand these lines
and the door is half-open to the miracle called poetry.
They only need to give it a slight push and in they go.
You will be as harmless as a baby’s bite but as dangerous as a snake.
Follow my advice but bear me no grudge, neither gifts, nor praise:
I have done, in this poem for you, what the masters prescribed
with small, excusable deviations to fit you like a glove, dear reader.



Nikos Tselepides
30th November 2006
Athens, Greece
Note: Some of the quoted lines come from my works in progress.
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帖子发表于: 星期五 十二月 08, 2006 12:13 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

很长,是吧?可我却读得津津有味。

转帖在这还有一个原因,即,"Do not put much of yourself in it, and set
your ego aside. Keep away from expressing your dreams too much" 这句和 Kokho 所厌烦的我、你、他自恋 有共鸣。

而我觉得,光去掉人称代词并不说明就去掉了自恋;有些还更隐蔽。 Wink
有人称代词的也不一定就是自恋,
as what Nick wrote "Assert your opinions, assess the view.
That is different from asserting your ego—your comments on what you see
are valuable and things like the lines below work:
“We made a fire with our own constituent thoughts
and sizzled in it for a while. The wind spread it quickly
to the valley and the towns below, and we supervised
the clean burn till only the ashes of experience were left.”
That is asserting the self through the world around us. "



Happy reading.
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帖子发表于: 星期五 十二月 08, 2006 1:43 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

it's like being a good bad wife
or being a bad good man?
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Sometimes I am free
In between, there's it
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帖子发表于: 星期五 十二月 08, 2006 2:08 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

博弈 写到:
it's like being a good bad wife
or being a bad good man?


去联想吧......

It can be a good bad boy
or a bad good poet...

我算是想通了,敞开你的心扉,去听各种可能吧。
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帖子发表于: 星期一 十二月 11, 2006 3:16 am    发表主题: 引用并回复

Thank you for sharing ..

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帖子发表于: 星期一 十二月 11, 2006 4:50 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

有人称代词的也不一定就是自恋

--agree...

首先要自己能感动...才能感动别人...
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