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发表于: 星期二九月 02, 2008 9:21 am 发表主题: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

竹里館王維獨坐幽篁裏，彈琴復長嘯。深林人不知，明月來相照。 English Translation: Bamboo-Midst Cottage Sitting alone in reclusive bamboo dark, I play the zither, gravely whistling. Deep in forest, no one can know; Only the bright moon and I face each other. _________________ Don't imitate me; it's as boring as the two halves of a melon.

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发表于: 星期二九月 02, 2008 11:20 am 发表主题:

I've also translated this poem, not sure if I've posted it here: Lodge Among the Bamboos I sit alone by the serene bamboos, Strumming my zither and whistling. No one knows I'm in the deep woods, Only the moon comes watching. _________________ 我的blog: http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/1310527443

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I like Edgar's. More simple and smooth. _________________

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发表于: 星期二九月 02, 2008 7:03 pm 发表主题: Re: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

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竹里館王維

獨坐幽篁裏，彈琴復長嘯。

深林人不知，明月來相照。

譯詩 (I found it online)

獨自坐在幽深的竹叢中，
彈彈琴又仰天長嘯。
沒有人知道我在這幽深的密林中，
只有一輪明月來相伴。

戴玨写到:

Lodge Among the Bamboos

I sit alone by the serene bamboos,
Strumming my zither and whistling.
No one knows I'm in the deep woods,
Only the moon comes watching.

In my view, the lines marked above are not accurate enough to express the tone of its Chinese version of the poem.

I like fanfan's translation.

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发表于: 星期二九月 02, 2008 10:04 pm 发表主题:

Thank you all for sharing your thoughts.

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I've also translated this poem, not sure if I've posted it here:

Lodge Among the Bamboos

I sit alone by the serene bamboos,
Strumming my zither and whistling.
No one knows I'm in the deep woods,
Only the moon comes watching.

I like your concluding line.
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发表于: 星期三九月 03, 2008 5:09 am 发表主题: Re: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

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竹里館王維

獨坐幽篁裏，彈琴復長嘯。

深林人不知，明月來相照。

譯詩 (I found it online)

獨自坐在幽深的竹叢中，
彈彈琴又仰天長嘯。
沒有人知道我在這幽深的密林中，
只有一輪明月來相伴。

戴玨写到:

Lodge Among the Bamboos

I sit alone by the serene bamboos,
Strumming my zither and whistling.
No one knows I'm in the deep woods,
Only the moon comes watching.

In my view, the lines marked above are not accurate enough to express the tone of its Chinese version of the poem.

是不是說“幽”和“長嘯”？幽可指幽暗，幽深，也可指幽靜，英文很難找到一個包含這所有意義的字，我選用serene是可以和第二句人物的活動形成對比；另外第三句有深字，不用幽暗，幽深的含意可避免重復。長嘯并非大呼，而是撮口發出悠長而清越之聲，乃魏晉以來所謂名士的一種表示灑脫清高的行為，類似今日的吹口哨。
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发表于: 星期三九月 03, 2008 8:28 pm 发表主题: Re: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

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是不是說“幽”和“長嘯”？幽可指幽暗，幽深，也可指幽靜，英文很難找到一個包含這所有意義的字，我選用serene是可以和第二句人物的活動形成對比；另外第三句有深字，不用幽暗，幽深的含意可避免重復。長嘯并非大呼，而是撮口發出悠長而清越之聲，乃魏晉以來所謂名士的一種表示灑脫清高的行為，類似今日的吹口哨。

I think 幽 probably means 幽暗 because this meaning will create a contrast with "brightness" revealed in the concluding line (幽篁 vs. 明月).
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发表于: 星期四九月 04, 2008 1:09 pm 发表主题: Re: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

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I think 幽 probably means 幽暗 because this meaning will create a contrast with "brightness" revealed in the concluding line (幽篁 vs. 明月).

yes, I concur.

I like your concluding line.

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Deep in forest, no one can know;
Only the bright moon and I face each other.

What follows is William P. Coleman's translation:

The Bamboo Grove

Alone I sit, dark, among bamboos;
I pluck my qín, or whistle Taoist breathing.

Deep in forest, no one can know:
the bright moon visits me and shines.
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舌頭那匹温暖的水獸　馴養地在小小的水族箱中　蠕動
那獸說：是的我願意

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发表于: 星期四九月 04, 2008 4:31 pm 发表主题: Re: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

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I think 幽 probably means 幽暗 because this meaning will create a contrast with "brightness" revealed in the concluding line (幽篁 vs. 明月).

Because of the moon, the bamboo woods might not be that dark after all. Considering the poet's relaxed mood, I don't think it's a good idea to emphasize darkness.
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发表于: 星期四九月 04, 2008 9:28 pm 发表主题: Re: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

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I think 幽 probably means 幽暗 because this meaning will create a contrast with "brightness" revealed in the concluding line (幽篁 vs. 明月).

Because of the moon, the bamboo woods might not be that dark after all. Considering the poet's relaxed mood, I don't think it's a good idea to emphasize darkness.

I agree with Edgar, since I think dark is a little negative.
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发表于: 星期五九月 05, 2008 10:19 am 发表主题: Re: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

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I think 幽 probably means 幽暗 because this meaning will create a contrast with "brightness" revealed in the concluding line (幽篁 vs. 明月).

Because of the moon, the bamboo woods might not be that dark after all. Considering the poet's relaxed mood, I don't think it's a good idea to emphasize darkness.

I agree with Edgar, since I think dark is a little negative.

Thank you all for your comments. And I will now think over them.
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I think 幽 probably means 幽暗 because this meaning will create a contrast with "brightness" revealed in the concluding line (幽篁 vs. 明月).

Because of the moon, the bamboo woods might not be that dark after all. Considering the poet's relaxed mood, I don't think it's a good idea to emphasize darkness.

I agree with Edgar, since I think dark is a little negative.

What follows is Pauline Yu's translation:

Bamboo Lodge translated by Pauline Yu:

Alone I sit amid the dark bamboo
Play the zither and whistle loud again.
In the deep wood men do not know
The bright moon comes to shine on me.

Note:

Pauline Yu, President of ACLS, is a former Professor of East Asian Languages and Cultures and Dean of Humanities in the College of Letters and Science at UCLA. She is the author of The Poetry of Wang Wei: New Translations and Commentary.
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发表于: 星期二九月 09, 2008 9:25 pm 发表主题: Re: Bamboo-Midst Cottage

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Bamboo Lodge translated by Pauline Yu:

Alone I sit amid the dark bamboo
Play the zither and whistle loud again.

Line 1: This alludes to a poem entitled 'The Mountain Spirit' (shan Gui) the ninth of the Nine Songs in the Songs of Chu. There the speaker grieves over the failure of his lady (the spirit) to arrive, and he waits in sorrowful solitude in a dense and gloomy bamboo grove.

Line 2: A "whistle" (xiao) was probably a combination of Taoist breathing techniques and whistling which was said to express feelings and was associated with harmonizing with nature and achieving immortality. The tradition of the xiao began the Jin dynasty and has always been linked with Taoism. By the Tang there were apparently 12 different types of xiao.
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