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fanfan[FAFAFA]
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 发表于: 星期六 八月 23, 2008 10:01 am 发表主题: 過香積寺，Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance (revised |
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過香積寺 王維
不知香積寺， 數里入雲峰。
古木無人徑， 深山何處鐘。
泉聲咽危石， 日色冷青松。
薄暮空潭曲， 安禪制毒龍。
English Translation
Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance
Not knowing the way
To the Temple of Heaped Fragrance,
I lost many miles
Among cloudy peaks.
There is no human track
Among the ancient trees;
Where is the bell
That rings from deep in the mountains?
The sound of a spring
Is gurgling past towering rocks;
The color of sunlight
Is chilled by green pines.
In faint twilight
Where an empty pond curves,
Zazen subdues
pernicious dragons of the mind.
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Don't imitate me;
it's as boring
as the two halves of a melon.
最后进行编辑的是 fanfan on 星期二 九月 02, 2008 8:42 am, 总计第 4 次编辑 |
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| 发表于: 星期六 八月 23, 2008 3:25 pm 发表主题: Re: 過香積寺，Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance |
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| fanfan 写到: |
薄暮空潭曲， 安禪制毒龍。
In faint twilight,
Close to an empty pool,
Zazen subdues
Poison dragons. |
My suggestion is as follows:
In faint twilight
Where an empty pond curves,
Zazen subdues
Poison dragons of the mind.
I like this Zen poem on spiritual ignorance. |
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fanfan[FAFAFA]
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| 发表于: 星期日 八月 24, 2008 7:30 am 发表主题: Re: 過香積寺，Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance |
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| christine 写到: |
My suggestion is as follows:
In faint twilight
Where an empty pond curves,
Zazen subdues
Poison dragons of the mind.
I like this Zen poem on spiritual ignorance. |
Yes, "Poison dragons of the mind" makes the meaning of the last sentence clearer.
毒龍 is a symbol of the mind's dangerous ignorance and passion.
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Don't imitate me;
it's as boring
as the two halves of a melon. |
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| 发表于: 星期日 八月 24, 2008 7:38 pm 发表主题: Re: 過香積寺，Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance |
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I like this Zen poem on spiritual ignorance. |
In the opening lines, Wang Wei explicitly expresses his ignorance of the temple and gets lost many miles among cloudy peaks.
For Buddhists, the Enemy is not Evil, but Ignorance.
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浴恩福[浴恩福]
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| 发表于: 星期一 八月 25, 2008 1:11 pm 发表主题: |
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| christine 写到: |
I like this Zen poem on spiritual ignorance. |
In my view, this poem is also about spiritual suppression.
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fanfan[FFFFFF]
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| 发表于: 星期一 八月 25, 2008 10:13 pm 发表主题: |
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| christine 写到: |
I like this Zen poem on spiritual ignorance. |
In my view, this poem is also about spiritual suppression. |
From ignorance ("不知香積寺， 數里入雲峰"), the poem passes on to suppression ("泉聲咽危石， 日色冷青松").
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| 发表于: 星期一 八月 25, 2008 10:21 pm 发表主题: |
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All is good except “曲” which is not translated.
"Zazen subdues
Poison dragons of the mind. "
I'm not sure if it is necessary to put the interpretation in the translation. |
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| 发表于: 星期二 八月 26, 2008 7:06 pm 发表主题: |
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| fanfan 写到: |
Yes, "Poison dragons of the mind" makes the meaning of the last sentence clearer.
毒龍 is a symbol of the mind's dangerous ignorance and passion. |
There is a cultural context in which Wang Wei used 毒龍; that is that the Chinese believed there was a dragon in every lake and stream.
| Lake 写到: | All is good except “曲” which is not translated.
"Zazen subdues
Poison dragons of the mind. "
I'm not sure if it is necessary to put the interpretation in the translation. |
In my view, I think it's necessary to put the interpretation in the translation for English-speaking readers.
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温暖的水獸[温暖的水獸]
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| 发表于: 星期四 八月 28, 2008 2:30 pm 发表主题: Re: 過香積寺，Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance |
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| fanfan 写到: |
English Translation
Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance
Not knowing the way
To the Temple of Heaped Fragrance,
I am lost many miles
Among cloudy peaks.
There is no human track
Among the ancient trees;
Where is the bell
That rings from deep in the mountains?
The sound of a spring
Is chocked by winding rocks;
The color of sunlight
Is tempered by green pines.
In faint twilight,
Close to an empty pool,
Zazen subdues
Poison dragons. |
My suggestions are as follows:
I lost many miles
......
Is gurgling past towering rocks.
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舌頭那匹温暖的水獸 馴養地在小小的水族箱中 蠕動
那獸說：是的 我願意 |
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戴玨[Edgar]
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| 发表于: 星期四 八月 28, 2008 7:41 pm 发表主题: Re: 過香積寺，Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance |
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| fanfan 写到: | 過香積寺 王維
The sound of a spring
Is chocked by winding rocks;
The color of sunlight
Is tempered by green pines.
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是不是想用choke？
冷怎麽用temper？可考慮用frost。
如果理解為這空潭有曲岸的話，曲可考慮翻成curvy。
毒龍用poison不好，可考慮pernicious之類的詞。
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fanfan[FAFAFA]
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| 发表于: 星期六 八月 30, 2008 4:50 pm 发表主题: Re: 過香積寺，Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance |
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是不是想用choke？
冷怎麽用temper？可考慮用frost。
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Yes, choke is a typo.
It's because the intense of heat generated by sunlight has been moderated by green pines.
Don't you think 冷 used here is a figure of speech?
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如果理解為這空潭有曲岸的話，曲可考慮翻成curvy。
毒龍用poison不好，可考慮pernicious之類的詞。 |
Yes, good suggestions.
Thanks for your attentive reading and helpful comments.
I'm looking forward to reading your work.
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Don't imitate me;
it's as boring
as the two halves of a melon.
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| 发表于: 星期一 九月 01, 2008 2:44 pm 发表主题: Re: 過香積寺，Passing by the Temple of Heaped Fragrance |
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It's because the intense of heat generated by sunlight has been moderated by green pines.
Don't you think 冷 used here is a figure of speech?
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It's tinged with a cold color where the green pines caught the evening light.
I think that's what the line literally means.
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fanfan[FAFAFA]
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It's tinged with a cold color where the green pines caught the evening light.
I think that's what the line literally means. |
Yes, thank you so much for your insightful comment.
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