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fanfan[FAFAFA]
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 发表于: 星期二 七月 08, 2008 3:53 pm 发表主题: English, I Anguish (new version) |
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English, I Anguish Co-written by ericcoliu, An Echo to Lost in Translation by ericcoliu
English, I Anguish
You are not able to connect
emotions to words, to feel
the weight of their syllables.
Without emotional vocabulary
everything becomes elusion, confusion
and the fear of things
you needn’t be afraid of.
You are not able to weave
words into sentences, to free
your thoughts from inertia.
Words have become the isolated cries
of a wandering soul
clutching desperately at your heart.
Note:
English, I Anguish is appropriated from a verse line in My Foreign Anguish by ericcoliu.
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Don't imitate me;
it's as boring
as the two halves of a melon.
最后进行编辑的是 fanfan on 星期六 九月 06, 2008 12:18 pm, 总计第 1 次编辑 |
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ericcoliu[ericcoliu]
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| 发表于: 星期二 七月 08, 2008 10:11 pm 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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| fanfan 写到: |
English, I Anguish
You are not able to connect
emotions to words
and words into English sentences.
Words now become the suppressed cries
of a wandering soul
clutching desperately at your heart.
Without emotional vocabulary,
everything becomes elusion, confusion
and the fear of things
you needn’t be afraid of.
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Lost in Translation
Every time when I hear myself speak in English, I just hate it. It is not my human voice but rather a mechanically translated one. It is not simply that my ears hate my mouth, or that my mouth tries to irritate my ears. It is because, in the strain of translating a Chinese word into its English equivalent, or vice versa, the spontaneity and natural quality of my speech are lost. In the toiling process of translation, I try hard to impose my learning, will, and intellect on my spoken English in an effort to turn my speech into an oral facade of my hidden self. I know that I am failing, for I feel that I'm falling out of the tightly-knit fabric of emotional vocabulary into the weightless net of the linguistic signifiers of a foreign language. Stuck in this dark and chaotic situation, I have become a stranger to myself, a person who lives on the edge between the world of his own and that of the foreigners he has just joined.
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christine[christine]
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| 发表于: 星期三 七月 09, 2008 7:00 pm 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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English, I Anguish
You are not able to connect
emotions to words
and words into English sentences.
Words now become the suppressed cries
of a wandering soul
clutching desperately at your heart.
Without emotional vocabulary,
everything becomes elusion, confusion
and the fear of things
you needn’t be afraid of.
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Yes, it's because you're lost to yourself.
“I am my language,” says the poet Gloria Anzald, because language is at the heart of who we are. |
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fanfan[FFFFFF]
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| 发表于: 星期三 七月 09, 2008 9:46 pm 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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“I am my language,” says the poet Gloria Anzald, because language is at the heart of who we are. |
Yes, well said.
The limits of my language mean the limits of my world.
-- Ludwig Wittgenstein
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Don't imitate me;
it's as boring
as the two halves of a melon. |
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东西[东西]
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| 发表于: 星期四 七月 10, 2008 12:50 pm 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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| fanfan 写到: |
Words now become the suppressed cries
of a wandering soul
clutching desperately at your heart.
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These lines above are my favourite lines.
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everything becomes elusion, confusion
and the fear of things
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Yes, you strikes at the core of the key issue regarding ESL.
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East is East, and West is West, and never the twain shall meet. |
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fanfan[FFFFFF]
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| 发表于: 星期五 七月 11, 2008 7:49 am 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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Words now become the suppressed cries
of a wandering soul
clutching desperately at your heart.
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These lines above are my favourite lines.
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everything becomes elusion, confusion
and the fear of things
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Yes, you strikes at the core of the key issue regarding ESL. |
Thanks for the reading and sharing.
Share with you a quote from Eva Hoffman, who wrote a wonderful book, Lost in Translation, a book that reflects on immigrant experience explicitly in terms of a movement back and forth between two possible selves, associated with two distinct cultural and linguistic life-models:
When I speak Polish now, it is infiltrated, permeated, and inflected with English in my head. Each language modifies the other, crossbreeds with it, fertilizes it. Each language makes the other relative. Like everybody, I am the sum of my languages."
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Don't imitate me;
it's as boring
as the two halves of a melon. |
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christine[christine]
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| 发表于: 星期三 七月 16, 2008 7:04 pm 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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Share with you a quote from Eva Hoffman, who wrote a wonderful book, Lost in Translation, a book that reflects on immigrant experience explicitly in terms of a movement back and forth between two possible selves, associated with two distinct cultural and linguistic life-models:
When I speak Polish now, it is infiltrated, permeated, and inflected with English in my head. Each language modifies the other, crossbreeds with it, fertilizes it. Each language makes the other relative. Like everybody, I am the sum of my languages." |
Thank you for your well thought-out quote.
I just wonder what identities people construct for themselves when they use different languages in particular ways. |
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fanfan[FFFFFF]
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| 发表于: 星期四 七月 17, 2008 7:27 am 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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I just wonder what identities people construct for themselves when they use different languages in particular ways. |
Good question. I think you can find your answer satisfactorily in I Am My Language: Discourses of Women and Children in the Borderlands by Norma González.
"In this book, Norma González uses language as a window on the multiple levels of identity construction in children—as well as on the complexities of life in the borderlands—to explore language practices and discourse patterns of Mexican-origin mothers and the language socialization of their children. She shows how the unique discourses that result from the interplay of two cultures shape perceptions of self and community, and how they influence the ways in which children learn and families engage with their children’s schools."
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Don't imitate me;
it's as boring
as the two halves of a melon. |
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robarts[robarts]
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| 发表于: 星期四 七月 17, 2008 2:54 pm 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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When I speak Polish now, it is infiltrated, permeated, and inflected with English in my head. Each language modifies the other, crossbreeds with it, fertilizes it. Each language makes the other relative. [b]Like everybody, I am the sum of my languages." |
You live a new life for every new language you speak. If you know only one language, you live only once.
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| 发表于: 星期五 七月 18, 2008 2:48 am 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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| robarts 写到: | | You live a new life for every new language you speak. If you know only one language, you live only once. |
Is that true? I have my own dialects, then I learned to speak and write in Mandarin, and I stayed in Shanghai for 6 year, so I can speak Shanghai dialect, now I have to speak and write in English. So I have 4 lives.
But I am good at none of these languages, I'd rather have one perfect life, not 4 miserable lives.
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fanfan[FAFAFA]
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| 发表于: 星期六 七月 19, 2008 8:41 am 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish |
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| robarts 写到: | | You live a new life for every new language you speak. If you know only one language, you live only once. |
Is that true? I have my own dialects, then I learned to speak and write in Mandarin, and I stayed in Shanghai for 6 year, so I can speak Shanghai dialect, now I have to speak and write in English. So I have 4 lives.
But I am good at none of these languages, I'd rather have one perfect life, not 4 miserable lives. |
I think it's true if you're really into a new language, which means a different life world.
It's amazing you've learned four languages. I hope everything will go well with you eventually. Thanks for sharing your thought.
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| 发表于: 星期六 九月 06, 2008 12:19 pm 发表主题: |
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I've revised and expanded my piece.
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clair[clair]
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| 发表于: 星期一 九月 08, 2008 6:01 pm 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish (new version) |
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English, I Anguish
You are not able to connect
emotions to words, to feel
the weight of their syllables.
Without emotional vocabulary
everything becomes elusion, confusion
and the fear of things
you needn’t be afraid of.
You are not able to weave
words into sentences, to free
your thoughts from inertia.
Words have become the isolated cries
of a wandering soul
clutching desperately at your heart.
Note:
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I like your revised version, which highlightens the almost unbearable heaviness of speaking a foreign language.
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This dark
Ceiling without a star |
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fanfan[FFFFFF]
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| 发表于: 星期一 九月 08, 2008 11:20 pm 发表主题: Re: English, I Anguish (new version) |
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I like your revised version, which highlightens the almost unbearable heaviness of speaking a foreign language. |
Yes, English is my language of anguish.
Thank you for your comment.
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it's as boring
as the two halves of a melon. |
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