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We Are Haunted by Names ( revised for KMT's 'victory' )

 
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帖子发表于: 星期六 九月 22, 2007 9:08 am    发表主题: We Are Haunted by Names ( revised for KMT's 'victory' ) 引用并回复

We Are Haunted by Names


Living on Ilha Formosa
We are haunted
By a war of Names
Fighting for the Republic of China/Taiwan
We Chinese, we Taiwanese will never end our civil war
A bloody bloodless civil bore.
No Kamikazes crashing, no Dr. Luther King murdered
To Uncle Sam and Brother Momotaro
We are the good soldiers.
Lacking the ghosts of History
We are haunted.
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帖子发表于: 星期六 九月 22, 2007 3:08 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

Peace is what people want.
War is what politicians want.

--Don't remember who said that
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帖子发表于: 星期六 九月 22, 2007 5:26 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

All peoples want peace, but they want a peace that suits them.

In the tug-of-war of Names for Taiwan's identity, language is the first casualty, becoming an emotionally-charged set of linguistic signifiers of a P.C. language.

Everyone in Taiwan has his/her own dictionary of identity politics based on the ethnic, linguistic, family background lines of thinking.

A simple question like "Are you Taiwanese?" can be a endless futile process of defining and re-defining the words Taiwan and Taiwanese. A bloody bloodless civic bore.
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帖子发表于: 星期日 九月 23, 2007 11:17 am    发表主题: 引用并回复

Waging a war of Names that have no substance, or bear mere nominal existence, or don't correspond to any historical reality is a really bloody bloodless civic bore.

Following your line of thinking, the second causality following the demise of the accurate use of language is to de-contextualize historical accounts and then to lose a sense of history in its broader context and then to turn everything historically significant into raw material for the language game

Yes, lacking the ghosts of History, we are haunted.
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帖子发表于: 星期日 九月 23, 2007 9:59 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

It is a very sensitive topic that reveals the unsettled and uneasy state of mind.
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帖子发表于: 星期三 九月 26, 2007 8:41 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

Lake 写到:
It is a very sensitive topic that reveals the unsettled and uneasy state of mind.


It reveals the unsettled and uneasy mind of the state as well.


If I am unavoidably a Chinese by descent
I am only sometimes a Chinese by consent
When and how is a matter of politics.
If I am legitimately a Taiwanese by birth rights
I am oftentimes a mere New Taiwanese by pro-democracy rhetoric.
What and where is a matter of choice.
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帖子发表于: 星期日 一月 13, 2008 11:31 am    发表主题: 引用并回复

The Map of Taiwan

If you open up the world map
And examine the geographic relation
Between Taiwan and China,
Would the island grow bigger, or smaller?
Would the island extend its arm
And reach the mainland as a peninsula?
Or would the globe get compressed
And result in the island's drifting
Away from the mainland for good?
All possibilities are laid out
In the minds of the people in Taiwan,
But reduced by the nationalistic Chinese,
Who are assisted with Taiwanese pro-independence rhetoric,
To one firm answer -- unification.
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帖子发表于: 星期日 一月 13, 2008 2:30 pm    发表主题: 引用并回复

interesting post!

tory or ism
tai won the democratic change
such notion beyond the map

i actually adore his.
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Over the past 12 years, Democracy in Taiwan has been a process by which the people would be free to choose the man who would get the blame.
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Formosa by Liu Kexiang


The first discoverer
Had no idea where to plot it on the nautical
charts
An island wavering over the Tropic of
Cancer
Possessed of the most vexing past and the
frailest people
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ericcoliu 写到:


We Are Haunted by Names

Living on Ilha Formosa
We are haunted
By a war of Names
Fighting for the Republic of China/Taiwan
We Chinese, we Taiwanese will never end our civil war
A bloody bloodless civil bore.
No Kamikazes crashing, no Dr. Luther King murdered
To Uncle Sam and Brother Momotaro
We are the good soldiers.
Lacking the ghosts of History
We are haunted.



As a reader, I'm really haunted by the names you use in the poem.

Lacking the ghosts of History
We are haunted.

Yes. The kind of historical amnesia subtly portrayed in your poem is so alarming, depriving the Taiwanese of a deeper understanding of their histories (definitely not History).
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