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[非马]

怀旧

西出阳关无故人
更何况绕了大半个地球

今夜的天空
挤满了
大大小小的人造卫星
却没有一个
载得起
我要给你的信息



NOSTALGIA

It's said there'll be no old friends
west of Yang Gate
I am now more than half the world away

tonight's sky is crowded
with man-made satellites
big and small
but I can't find even one
that can carry my messages
to you

[[FAFAFA]]

怀旧

西出阳关无故人
更何况绕了大半个地球

今夜的天空
挤满了
大大小小的人造卫星
却没有一个
载得起
我要给你的信息



NOSTALGIA

It's said there'll be no old friends
west of Yang Gate
I am now more than half the world away

tonight's sky is crowded
with man-made satellites
big and small
but I can't find even one
that can carry my messages
to you

[ericcoliu]

[[ericcoliu]]

[非马]

谢谢ERIC的引诗。我想把阳关译成Yang Gate 要比 Yang Pass 好得多。我本来也想用Yang Gate ，后来决定用the border gate Yang Guan 是因为：(一)阳关已成了一个大家熟知的地名（就如北京，照理应该译成the Northern Capital，但我们现在都把它译为Beijing)，（二）这样可省去另加注解说它是Border Gate的麻烦。

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谢谢ERIC的引诗。我想把阳关译成Yang Gate 要比 Yang Pass 好得多。我本来也想用Yang Gate ，后来决定用the border gate Yang Guan 是因为：(一)阳关已成了一个大家熟知的地名（就如北京，照理应该译成the Northern Capital，但我们现在都把它译为Beijing)，（二）这样可省去另加注解说它是Border Gate的麻烦。

[ericcoliu]

[[ericcoliu]]

[东西]

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[非马]

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[星子]

Hi 非马

I know you like the verse

西出阳关无故人

But I feel

It is kind of cliche, though you try to use it in a new way.



I like your last verse, the first two, I think you can express in another way. No need to borrow the famous verse.

Chinese traditional poem is very concise and classics, to put here, I feel a little bit awkward.
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[[ANNA]]

Hi 非马

I know you like the verse

西出阳关无故人

But I feel

It is kind of cliche, though you try to use it in a new way.



I like your last verse, the first two, I think you can express in another way. No need to borrow the famous verse.

Chinese traditional poem is very concise and classics, to put here, I feel a little bit awkward.
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[非马]

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[Lake]

Interesting discussion re the translation of 阳关。 I think each translation has its own merit. However 'Yang Gate' doesn't sound pleasant to my ear. One reason - 'Yang' is based on its pronunciation, while 'Gate' on its meaning. The irregularity of the two translations makes it sound strange to me. If we want to retain both its sound and meaning, this might work 'to the west of Yang Guan Gate' , which I find is also adopted as official translation.

[[Lake]]

Interesting discussion re the translation of 阳关。 I think each translation has its own merit. However 'Yang Gate' doesn't sound pleasant to my ear. One reason - 'Yang' is based on its pronunciation, while 'Gate' on its meaning. The irregularity of the two translations makes it sound strange to me. If we want to retain both its sound and meaning, this might work 'to the west of Yang Guan Gate' , which I find is also adopted as official translation.

[Lake]

I don't quite agree the use of 西出阳关无故人 is a cliché, but rather a use of 用典， 古意新用. A contrast of ancient to modern.

I am more grabbed by the sentiment and longing and homesickness conveyed in this poem. In the past, people sent their messages by the ancient moon; whereas in this poem, the speaker's mind is so heavy-laden with nostalgia that not even a satellite can help carry a message. It is a very clever use of 'man-made satellites".

[[Lake]]

I don't quite agree the use of 西出阳关无故人 is a cliché, but rather a use of 用典， 古意新用. A contrast of ancient to modern.

I am more grabbed by the sentiment and longing and homesickness conveyed in this poem. In the past, people sent their messages by the ancient moon; whereas in this poem, the speaker's mind is so heavy-laden with nostalgia that not even a satellite can help carry a message. It is a very clever use of 'man-made satellites".